From: KWood@lightbridge.com
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Subject: Re: (RL) The production
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:15:54 -0400
I've *always* had trouble finding a good clean sound as well. Almost any
amp, properly motivated ; ), will give one sort or another of a great lead
or rhythm crunch, but too often those same amps sound plunky and thin the
moment you go clean. Fender by far has the clean sound with the most
fullness and personality ('soft, floating' is an excellent description!),
but beyond that, it really seems to be the one place where the guitar and
pickups (and the player) make it or break it.
"Per RosÚn" <per_m_rosen@hotmail.com> on 07/13/2001 06:26:52 AM
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Subject: Re: (RL) The production
Thanks Maurice!
I already have a power attenuator. It's built into the Marshall speaker
emulator I bought some years ago. The problem with an attenuator is that
the
speakers will not work as on high volumes and you will still not get the
same sound. But it may work on others equipments.
But if your amp only has 8watts I think you can crank a lot. (Depends on
your neighbours, of course.) I used to switch 50W Marshall to triod to get
only 25W, but with a 4x12 it's still pretty loud. (But you get a fantastic
overdrive sound.) On gigs everyone was complaining 'bout my level, most of
all the soundman, but the Marshall speaker emulator helped me there, though
a compromise to make them all a little happier. I left the 4x12 at home and
used the built in speaker in the Marshall combo just as a monitor, and I
could turn the level down on stage with the attenuator. The speaker sound
in
the PA was emulated and lined and sounded pretty good. A good solution for
small places.
This was a few years ago. A party some metal kids held in our rehearsing
place resulted in my both Marshalls in need for reparation/service. And I
still havn't done that. Too lazy, havn't been playing that much. My
temporary solution is a Sans Amp box working as a complete amp going into a
Twin reverb set on volume 2. Gets a very fat, good and not too loud
overdrive sound, though the clean sound sucks. (To be honest I've never
been
able to find the right clean sound on my stuff. Thuogh my friend found a
cheap Fender Bandmaster top ,silver face, and it has that rectifier tube
that gives you that fantastic soft, floating Fender sound.)
/Per
>From: Maurice Rickard <maurice@mauricerickard.com>
>Reply-To: matters@richardlloyd.com
>To: matters@richardlloyd.com
>Subject: Re: (RL) The production
>Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 13:38:08 -0700
>
>At 3:29 PM +0000 7/12/01, Per Ros?n wrote:
>>It would be great to know about for ex the 8" cabinet. To be able to
>>play a little quieter. I need to crank the amp (master volume) to
>>get the overdrive sound, I hate so called preamp-distortion.
>>Only my own experiences. It would be interesting to know about
>>yours, and Richards'.
>
>I can answer for myself that I finally "found" my guitar sound with a
>Kalamazoo Model Two amp (tube, ~8 watts, 10" speaker, tremelo). When
>cranked, it sounded great with my single-coil guitar for rhythm;
>sounded a bit blatty on chords from the humbucker, but great on leads.
>
>Since it's a pretty tiny amp (1 6bq5 power tube), it was easy enough
>for me to put in an attenuator--I didn't have to worry about
>dissipating a lot of heat.
>
>I put in an 8 ohm, 10 watt rheostat after the output transformer so I
>could turn the amp all the way up and turn the speaker output down.
>It's important how you wire it--you need to present a constant load
>to the output transformer, or else very bad things happen (arcing
>inside the transformer and tubes, for example). I picked up the
>basic schematic from an old (1954) audio handbook. If you're
>interested, I can scan the diagram, or whip it up in ASCII.
>(Disclaimer: I'm not responsible for damage done to amps on the basis
>of ASCII art.)
>
>There are some arguments that since a speaker presents a variable
>load at different frequencies, you need an attenuator to do the same,
>and a passive resistor (like my rheostat) doesn't do that.
>Supposedly, this changes the tone of the amp at low volumes. It may
>be so, and I'd definitely not want to do this to a louder amp (way
>too much heat to get rid of), but I found that I quite liked the tone
>of my Kalamazoo with this arrangement. Your mileage may vary, of
>course.
>
>HTH,
>Maurice
>
>--
>Maurice Rickard
>http://mauricerickard.com/
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